Listen to "Fork in the Road" With Stan Hess Ramzpaul and Paul Fromm: Immigration Inva
Written by Paul Fromm
Monday, 16 January 2012 04:34
Fork in the Road: Political Correctness and the Immigration
Movement<http://reasonradionetwork.com/20120111/fork-in-the-road-political-correctness-and-the-immigration-movement>

January 11, 2012
*Listen to "Fork in the Road" With Stan Hess, Ramzpaul, and Paul Fromm:
Immigration Invasion*

[image: Eugene McCarthy and Pat
Buchanan]<http://reasonradionetwork.com/images/2012/01/Eugene_McCarthy_and_Pat_Buchanan.jpg>

*Stan Hess, RAMZPAUL, and Paul Fromm discuss:*

- Political Correctness and the immigration movement;
- Hispanic leaders’
words<http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/hispanicleaders.asp>on
immigration and White dispossession;
- How the late Senator Eugene McCarthy (liberal) warned us about illegal
aliens in *A Colony of the World: The United States Today;*
- What Pat Buchanan (conservative) wrote about illegals in *The Death of
the West*.

http://reasonradionetwork.com/20120111/fork-in-the-road-political-correctness-and-the-immigration-movement
 
Frosty Wooldridge Refutes Dowell Myers: Immigration Challenge Not Over—America as Sac
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Frosty Wooldridge Refutes Dowell Myers: Immigration Challenge Not
Over—America as Sacrifice Zone of Overpopulation Immigration
challenge not over—America as sacrifice zone of overpopulation

By Frosty Wooldridge

Re: “The next immigration challenge” by Dowell Myers, NYT, January
11, 2012-01-12

In his recent commentary, University of Southern California professor
and New York Times guest columnist Dowell Myers said, “The
immigration crisis roiling in America for decades has faded into
history.”

In reality, it accelerates beyond anyone’s understanding. Because of
legal and illegal immigration, the PEW Hispanic Center predicted
America’s population will rise by 100 million by 2035 and 138
million by 2050—90 percent driven by all forms of immigration. US
Population Projections by Fogel/Martin and the US Census Bureau
present similar numbers.

While the world population reached seven billion in 2011, it adds one
billion every 12 years on its way to 10.2 billion by 2050—within 38
years. Places like Haiti, Mexico, Somalia, India, Congo, Sudan and
Bangladesh send their exploding populations to Canada, America,
Australia and Europe with no end in sight. The third world adds 80
million annually, net gain.

While Mexico’s birthrate declines, it expects to rise from its
current 114 million via population momentum, to 146 million by 2050.
More will flee northward for a better life in the United States.
(Source: UN population projections)

“Most Western elites continue urging the wealthy West not to stem
the migrant tide [that adds 80 million net gain annually to the
planet], but to absorb our global brothers and sisters until their
horrid ordeal has been endured and shared by all—ten billion humans
packed onto an ecologically devastated planet.” Dr. Otis
Graham,Unguarded Gates

While Myers paints a picture through rose colored glasses, he neglects
the hard facts of our diminishing water, energy and resource base in
America. In 2012, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Arizona and California
face ominous water shortages. At Peak Oil, our energy grows more
tenuous and depleted with humans burning 84 million barrels of oil
24/7. When it runs out and it will run out, whether 20, 30 or 40
years from now—we will be left with 438 million people to feed and
limited or no gas for tractors. Reality check: there are no
alternative energies on the horizon to equate to the energy slave of
oil.

The question is less about assimilation and more about sustainability.
Can America sustain an added 138 million people by 2050? Can we
maintain our quality of life and standard of living? Answer: not a
chance!

"Unlimited population growth cannot be sustained; you cannot sustain
growth in the rates of consumption of resources. No species can
overrun the carrying capacity of a finite land mass. This Law cannot
be repealed and is not negotiable.” Dr. Albert Bartlett,
www.albartlett.org ( http://www.albartlett.org/ ) , University of
Colorado

What about ecological footprint? Every person added to America causes
the destruction of 25.4 acres of land to support that person. (Source:
www.footprintnetwork.org ( http://www.footprintnetwork.org/ )) If you
take 100 million people times 25.4 acres, that equals to 2.54 billion
acres of wilderness and arable land destroyed. We suffer animal
extinction rates of 250 annually in the lower 48 states in 2012. What
will it be in 38 years with that much loss of habitat? What about
carrying capacity for our fellow four legged, hooved, winged, furred
and finned travelers?

Upwards of two hundred species, mostly of the large, slow-breeding
variety are becoming extinct every day because more and more of the
earth's carrying capacity is systematically being converted into human
carrying capacity. These species are being burnt out, starved out, and
squeezed out of existence.” Daniel Quinn (
http://www.woopidoo.com/business_quotes/authors/daniel-quinn/index.htm
)

At current rates of failed states like Congo, Bangladesh, Mexico,
India, Somalia and the like, we must ask ourselves if we want to
become the “sacrifice zone” for the world’s exploding and
unsustainable nations. How many can we import into this country when
we already suffer 46 million Americans subsisting on food stamps, 13.4
million American children living below the poverty line, 68 percent of
African American children are brought up by single mothers and over 15
million Americans cannot secure a job?

Professor Myers needs to walk off the USC campus and obtain a reality
dose of the ramifications of mass immigration and its deleterious
effects on our own citizens, environment and quality of life. Instead
of more immigration, we need a moratorium on all immigration until we
move toward a sustainable civilization with a stable population.
Anything less is national suicide.

Sources:
1. 46 million Americans on food stamps: Brian Williams, NBC, Dec
8, 2011
2. 68 percent of African American children with single mother: Ms.
Dottie Lamm, columnist, Denver Post
3. 15 million unemployed Americans: Scott Pelley, CBS report, Oct.
2011
4. 13.4 million American children below poverty line: Scott
Pelley, CBS News, October, 2011

##
Frosty Wooldridge has bicycled across six continents - from the Arctic
to the South Pole - as well as six times across the USA, coast to
coast and border to border. In 2005, he bicycled from the Arctic
Circle, Norway to Athens, Greece. He presents "The Coming Population
Crisis in America: and what you can do about it" to civic clubs,
church groups, high schools and colleges. He works to bring about
sensible world population balance at www.frostywooldridge.com (
http://mail.google.com/mail/blocked::blocked::blocked::http:/www.frostywooldridge.com/
) He is the author of: America on the Brink: The Next Added 100
Million Americans. Copies available: 1 888 280 7715 (
tel:1%20888%20280%207715 )

In a five minute astoundingly simple yet brilliant video,
“Immigration, Poverty, and Gum Balls”, Roy Beck, director of
www.numbersusa.ORG, graphically illustrates the impact of
overpopulation. Take five minutes to see for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE&feature=player_embedded

“Immigration by the numbers—off the chart” by Roy Beck

This 10 minute demonstration shows Americans the results of unending
mass immigration on the quality of life and sustainability for future
generations: in a word “Mind boggling!” www.NumbersUSA.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ
##

Dowell Myers commentary in NYT:
THE immigration crisis that has roiled American politics for decades
has faded into history. Illegal immigration is shrinking to a trickle,
if that, and will likely never return to the peak levels of 2000. Just
as important, immigrants who arrived in the 1990s and settled here are
assimilating in remarkable and unexpected ways.

Taken together, these developments, and the demographic future they
foreshadow, require bold changes in our approach to both legal and
illegal immigration. Put simply, we must shift from an immigration
policy, with its emphasis on keeping newcomers out, to an immigrant
policy, with an emphasis on encouraging migrants and their children to
integrate into our social fabric.. “Show me your papers” should be
replaced with “Welcome to English class.”

Restrictionists, including those driving much of the debate on the
Republican primary trail, still talk as if nothing has changed. But
the numbers are stark: the total number of immigrants, legal and
illegal, arriving in the 2000s grew at half the rate of the 1990s,
according to the Census Bureau.

The most startling evidence of the falloff is the effective
disappearance of illegal border crossers from Mexico, with some
experts estimating the net number of new Mexicans (
http://tinyurl.com/7j5go2r ) settling in the United States at zero.
The size of the illegal-immigrant population peaked in 2007, with
about 58 percent of it of Mexican origin, according to the Pew
Hispanic Center; since 2008, that population has shrunk by roughly
200,000 a year. Illegal immigrants from Asia and other parts of the
globe have similarly dwindled in numbers.

This new equilibrium is here to stay, in large part because Mexico’s
birthrate is plunging ( http://www.economist.com/node/15959332 ). In
1970 a Mexican woman, on average, gave birth to 6.8 babies, and when
they entered their 20s, millions journeyed north for work. Today the
country’s birthrate — at 2.1 — is approaching that of the United
States. That portends a shrinking pool of young adults to meet
Mexico’s future labor needs, and less competition for jobs at home.

If the number of immigrants is declining, what about that other
nativist bugbear, assimilation? There’s little doubt that
immigrants’ potential as economic contributors turns on their
ability to assimilate. Fortunately, recent studies by John Pitkin,
Julie Park and me show that immigrant parents and children, especially
Latinos, are making extraordinary strides in assimilating.

Today, barely a third of adult immigrants have a high-school diploma..
But the children of Latino immigrants have always outperformed their
parents in educational achievement. By 2030 we expect 80 percent of
their children who arrived in the 1990s before age 10 to have
completed high school and 18 percent to have a bachelor’s degree.

But it is immigrants’ success in becoming homeowners — often
overlooked in immigration debates — that is the truest mark of their
desire to adopt America as home. Consider Latinos. Among those in the
wave of 1990s immigrants, just 20 percent owned a home in 2000. We
expect that percentage to rise to 69 percent — and 74 percent for
all immigrants — by 2030, well above the historical average for all
Americans.

Who will be selling these homes to these immigrants? The 78 million
native-born baby boomers looking to downsize as their children grow up
and leave home. Fortunately for them, both immigrants and their
children will be there to buy their homes, putting money into
baby-boomer pockets and helping to shore up future housing prices.

Indeed, with millions of people retiring every week, America’s
immigrants and their children are crucial to future economic growth:
economists forecast labor-force growth to drop below 1 percent later
this decade because of retiring baby boomers.
Immigrants’ extraordinary progress in assimilating would be faster
if federal and state policies encouraged it. Unfortunately, they
don’t. This year, the Department of Homeland Security plans to spend
a measly $18 million — far less than a tenth of 1 percent of its
budget — on helping immigrants assimilate. Meanwhile, states with
large immigrant populations are cutting the budgets of community and
state colleges, precisely where immigrant students predominantly
enroll.

How do we change course and begin treating immigrants as a vast,
untapped human resource? The answer goes to the heart of shifting from
an immigration policy to an immigrant policy.

For starters, the billions of dollars spent on border enforcement
should be gradually redirected to replenishing and boosting the
education budget, particularly the Pell grant program for low-income
students. Some money could be channeled to nonprofits like
ImmigrationWorks and Welcoming America, which are at the forefront of
helping migrants assimilate.

Second, the Departments of Labor, Commerce and Education need to play
a greater role in immigration policy. Yes, as long as there remains a
terrorist threat from abroad, the Department of Homeland Security
should have an immigration component. But immigration policy is all
about cultivating needed workers. That means helping immigrants and
their children graduate from high school and college. It means that no
migrant should have to stand in line for an English class. It means
assistance in developing migrants’ job skills to better compete in
an increasingly information- and knowledge-based economy.

Thanks to our huge foreign-born population (12 percent of the total),
America can remain the world’s richest and most powerful nation for
decades.. Shaping an immigrant policy that focuses on developing the
talents of our migrants and their children is the surest way to
realize this goal.

Dowell Myers ( http://www-bcf.usc.edu/˜dowell/ ), a professor in the
Price School of Public Policy at the University of Southern
California, is the author of “Immigrants and Boomers.”

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Frosty Wooldridge Refutes Dowell Myers: Immigration =?windows-1252?Q?Challenge_Not_Ov
Written by Paul Fromm
Sunday, 15 January 2012 08:07
*Frosty Wooldridge Refutes Dowell Myers: Immigration Challenge Not
Over—America as Sacrifice Zone of Overpopulation*
**
*Immigration challenge not over—America as sacrifice zone of overpopulation*

By Frosty Wooldridge****

** **

Re: “The next immigration challenge” by Dowell Myers, *NYT*, January 11,
2012-01-12****

** **

In his recent commentary, University of Southern California professor and
New York Times guest columnist Dowell Myers said, “The immigration crisis
roiling in America for decades has faded into history.”****

** **

In reality, it accelerates beyond anyone’s understanding. Because of legal
and illegal immigration, the PEW Hispanic Center predicted America’s
population will rise by 100 million by 2035 and 138 million by 2050—90
percent driven by all forms of immigration. *US Population
Projections*by Fogel/Martin and the US Census Bureau present similar
numbers.
****

** **

While the world population reached seven billion in 2011, it adds one
billion every 12 years on its way to 10.2 billion by 2050—within 38 years.
Places like Haiti, Mexico, Somalia, India, Congo, Sudan and Bangladesh send
their exploding populations to Canada, America, Australia and Europe with
no end in sight. The third world adds 80 million annually, net gain.****

** **

While Mexico’s birthrate declines, it expects to rise from its current 114
million via population momentum, to 146 million by 2050. More will flee
northward for a better life in the United States. (Source: UN population
projections)****

** **

*“Most Western elites continue urging the wealthy West not to stem the
migrant tide [that adds 80 million net gain annually to the planet], but to
absorb our global brothers and sisters until their horrid ordeal has been
endured and shared by all—ten billion humans packed onto an ecologically
devastated planet.” Dr. Otis Graham, Unguarded Gates*

* *

While Myers paints a picture through rose colored glasses, he neglects the
hard facts of our diminishing water, energy and resource base in America.
In 2012, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Arizona and California face ominous water
shortages. At Peak Oil, our energy grows more tenuous and depleted with
humans burning 84 million barrels of oil 24/7. When it runs out and it
will run out, whether 20, 30 or 40 years from now—we will be left with 438
million people to feed and limited or no gas for tractors. Reality check:
there are no alternative energies on the horizon to equate to the energy
slave of oil. ****

** **

The question is less about assimilation and more about sustainability. Can
America sustain an added 138 million people by 2050? Can we maintain our
quality of life and standard of living? Answer: not a chance!****

** **

*"Unlimited population growth cannot be sustained; you cannot sustain
growth in the rates of consumption of resources. No species can overrun the
carrying capacity of a finite land mass. This Law cannot be repealed and is
not negotiable.”* Dr. Albert Bartlett, www.albartlett.org , University of
Colorado****

** **

What about ecological footprint? Every person added to America causes the
destruction of 25.4 acres of land to support that person. (Source:
www.footprintnetwork.org) If you take 100 million people times 25.4 acres,
that equals to 2.54 billion acres of wilderness and arable land
destroyed. We suffer animal extinction rates of 250 annually in the lower
48 states in 2012. What will it be in 38 years with that much loss of
habitat? What about carrying capacity for our fellow four legged, hooved,
winged, furred and finned travelers?****

** **

*Upwards of two hundred species, mostly of the large, slow-breeding variety
are becoming extinct every day because more and more of the earth's
carrying capacity is systematically being converted into human carrying
capacity. These species are being burnt out, starved out, and squeezed out
of existence.” Daniel
Quinn<http://www.woopidoo.com/business_quotes/authors/daniel-quinn/index.htm>
** *

* *

At current rates of failed states like Congo, Bangladesh, Mexico, India,
Somalia and the like, we must ask ourselves if we want to become the
“sacrifice zone” for the world’s exploding and unsustainable nations. How
many can we import into this country when we already suffer 46 million
Americans subsisting on food stamps, 13.4 million American children living
below the poverty line, 68 percent of African American children are brought
up by single mothers and over 15 million Americans cannot secure a job? ****

** **

Professor Myers needs to walk off the USC campus and obtain a reality dose
of the ramifications of mass immigration and its deleterious effects on our
own citizens, environment and quality of life. Instead of more
immigration, we need a moratorium on all immigration until we move toward a
sustainable civilization with a stable population. Anything less is
national suicide.****

** **

Sources:****

1. 46 million Americans on food stamps: Brian Williams, *NBC*, Dec 8,
2011****

2. 68 percent of African American children with single mother: Ms.
Dottie Lamm, columnist, *Denver Post*

3. 15 million unemployed Americans: Scott Pelley, *CBS* report, Oct.
2011****

4. 13.4 million American children below poverty line: Scott Pelley, *CBS
* News, October, 2011****

** **

##****

*Frosty Wooldridge has bicycled across six continents - from the Arctic to
the South Pole - as well as six times across the USA, coast to coast and
border to border. In 2005, he bicycled from the Arctic Circle, Norway to
Athens, Greece. He presents "The Coming Population Crisis in America: and
what you can do about it" to civic clubs, church groups, high schools and
colleges. He works to bring about sensible world population balance at **
www.frostywooldridge.com*<http://mail.google.com/mail/blocked::blocked::blocked::http:/www.frostywooldridge.com/>
* He is the author of: America on the Brink: The Next Added 100 Million
Americans. Copies available: 1 888 280 7715*

** **

In a five minute astoundingly simple yet brilliant video, “*Immigration,
Poverty, and Gum Balls*”, Roy Beck, director of
www.numbersusa.ORG<http://www.numbersusa.org/>,
graphically illustrates the impact of overpopulation. Take five minutes to
see for yourself:****

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE&feature=player_embedded****

** **

*“Immigration by the numbers—off the chart*” by Roy Beck****

** **

This 10 minute demonstration shows Americans the results of unending mass
immigration on the quality of life and sustainability for future
generations: in a word “Mind boggling!”
www.NumbersUSA.org<http://www.numbersusa.org/>
****

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ****

##****

** **

Dowell Myers commentary in *NYT*:****

THE immigration crisis that has roiled American politics for decades has
faded into history. Illegal immigration is shrinking to a trickle, if that,
and will likely never return to the peak levels of 2000. Just as important,
immigrants who arrived in the 1990s and settled here are assimilating in
remarkable and unexpected ways. ****

Taken together, these developments, and the demographic future they
foreshadow, require bold changes in our approach to both legal and illegal
immigration. Put simply, we must shift from an immigration policy, with its
emphasis on keeping newcomers out, to an immigrant policy, with an emphasis
on encouraging migrants and their children to integrate into our social
fabric.. “Show me your papers” should be replaced with “Welcome to English
class.” ****

Restrictionists, including those driving much of the debate on the
Republican primary trail, still talk as if nothing has changed. But the
numbers are stark: the total number of immigrants, legal and illegal,
arriving in the 2000s grew at half the rate of the 1990s, according to the
Census Bureau. ****

The most startling evidence of the falloff is the effective disappearance
of illegal border crossers from Mexico, with some experts estimating the net
number of new Mexicans <http://tinyurl.com/7j5go2r> settling in the United
States at zero. The size of the illegal-immigrant population peaked in
2007, with about 58 percent of it of Mexican origin, according to the Pew
Hispanic Center; since 2008, that population has shrunk by roughly 200,000
a year. Illegal immigrants from Asia and other parts of the globe have
similarly dwindled in numbers. ****

This new equilibrium is here to stay, in large part because Mexico’s
birthrate is plunging <http://www.economist.com/node/15959332>. In 1970 a
Mexican woman, on average, gave birth to 6.8 babies, and when they entered
their 20s, millions journeyed north for work. Today the country’s birthrate
— at 2.1 — is approaching that of the United States. That portends a
shrinking pool of young adults to meet Mexico’s future labor needs, and
less competition for jobs at home. ****

If the number of immigrants is declining, what about that other nativist
bugbear, assimilation? There’s little doubt that immigrants’ potential as
economic contributors turns on their ability to assimilate. Fortunately,
recent studies by John Pitkin, Julie Park and me show that immigrant
parents and children, especially Latinos, are making extraordinary strides
in assimilating. ****

Today, barely a third of adult immigrants have a high-school diploma.. But
the children of Latino immigrants have always outperformed their parents in
educational achievement. By 2030 we expect 80 percent of their children who
arrived in the 1990s before age 10 to have completed high school and 18
percent to have a bachelor’s degree. ****

But it is immigrants’ success in becoming homeowners — often overlooked in
immigration debates — that is the truest mark of their desire to adopt
America as home. Consider Latinos. Among those in the wave of 1990s
immigrants, just 20 percent owned a home in 2000. We expect that percentage
to rise to 69 percent — and 74 percent for all immigrants — by 2030, well
above the historical average for all Americans. ****

Who will be selling these homes to these immigrants? The 78 million
native-born baby boomers looking to downsize as their children grow up and
leave home. Fortunately for them, both immigrants and their children will
be there to buy their homes, putting money into baby-boomer pockets and
helping to shore up future housing prices. ****

Indeed, with millions of people retiring every week, America’s immigrants
and their children are crucial to future economic growth: economists
forecast labor-force growth to drop below 1 percent later this decade
because of retiring baby boomers. ****

Immigrants’ extraordinary progress in assimilating would be faster if
federal and state policies encouraged it. Unfortunately, they don’t. This
year, the Department of Homeland Security plans to spend a measly $18
million — far less than a tenth of 1 percent of its budget — on helping
immigrants assimilate. Meanwhile, states with large immigrant populations
are cutting the budgets of community and state colleges, precisely where
immigrant students predominantly enroll. ****

How do we change course and begin treating immigrants as a vast, untapped
human resource? The answer goes to the heart of shifting from an
immigration policy to an immigrant policy. ****

For starters, the billions of dollars spent on border enforcement should be
gradually redirected to replenishing and boosting the education budget,
particularly the Pell grant program for low-income students. Some money
could be channeled to nonprofits like ImmigrationWorks and Welcoming
America, which are at the forefront of helping migrants assimilate. ****

Second, the Departments of Labor, Commerce and Education need to play a
greater role in immigration policy. Yes, as long as there remains a
terrorist threat from abroad, the Department of Homeland Security should
have an immigration component. But immigration policy is all about
cultivating needed workers. That means helping immigrants and their
children graduate from high school and college. It means that no migrant
should have to stand in line for an English class. It means assistance in
developing migrants’ job skills to better compete in an increasingly
information- and knowledge-based economy. ****

Thanks to our huge foreign-born population (12 percent of the total),
America can remain the world’s richest and most powerful nation for
decades.. Shaping an immigrant policy that focuses on developing the
talents of our migrants and their children is the surest way to realize
this goal. ****

*Dowell Myers <http://www-bcf.usc.edu/˜dowell/>, a professor in the Price
School of Public Policy at the University of Southern California, is the
author of “Immigrants and Boomers.” *
 
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