NDP Backs Repression During Free Speech Debate
Written by Paul Fromm
Wednesday, 15 February 2012 07:26
*NDP Backs Repression During Free Speech Debate* ** *Fight to repeal hate
speech law brings together unlikely allies*

Rebecca Lindell, Global News : Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:26 PM ****

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*Photo Credit: *Bloomberg News Files , Bloomberg News****

OTTAWA – A bill to repeal part of Canada’s most contentious hate speech
provisions, which has brought together unusual allies, is one step closer
to becoming law.

Conservative MP Brian Storseth’s private member’s bill that would repeal
the Canadian Human Rights Commission’s power over hate messages
disseminated online is likely to survive its next test. The bill is
scheduled to be voted on for a second time on Wednesday, and while it is a
private member’s bill, Justice Minister Rob Nicholson endorsed the proposed
legislation last November. It will still have to be voted on once more in
the House of Commons and pass through the Senate before it becomes law, but
the progress is encouraging for its diverse supporters.

“This is a dead bill,” said Marc Lemire, one of the people to face a
complaint under the Canadian Human Rights Act. “It shouldn’t be on the
books and it will be a fine day in Canada when it is finally removed.”
Section 13 of the Act makes it discriminatory to spread online messages
that could expose an identifiable person or persons to hatred or contempt.

Lemire said the current legislation allows interest groups a risk-free way
of attacking political opponents by censoring free speech, something he
believes isn’t necessary or good for democratic society. “We don’t need the
government looking over our shoulder looking at what we say and whether it
is correct or not,” he said.

A well-known and outspoken figure in Canada’s far right, Lemire had a
Section 13 complaint filed against him in 2006 for posting anti-Semitic and
anti-gay material on websites. The Canadian Human Rights Tribunal found
that Lemire did violate the Act, but found the section unconstitutional.

The case is now before the Federal Court of Canada and Lemire has found an
unlikely ally in his fight to see the bill repealed, the Canadian Civil
Liberties Association. It’s an organization known for defending human
rights, equality and diversity, The CCLA’s general counsel Nathalie Des
Rosiers said it is important liberty and equality are protected for
everyone. “When you lose freedom of expression you lose the ability of
having the outside voice being forcefully heard,” said Des Rosiers.

“The good thing with freedom is you have so many different people who have
an interest in it,” said Lemire of the unlikely alliance.

The problem with Section 13, according to Des Rosiers, is the definition of
hate messages is too broad and blurs the line between hate and vigorous
disagreement. “Every group that is a little bit concerned about censorship
looks at this and says the possibility of this being abused to counter some
critical speech is wide,” she said. “You can easily get into full-fledged

University of Windsor law professor Richard Moon, who was hired by the
commission to study Section 13, argues it is simply not the right vehicle
to defend people from hate messages. “I personally believe that it is
entirely right and appropriate that there be laws that restrict extreme
hate speech,” said Moon, who defines such speech as advocating, justifying
or inciting violence. Moon said the Criminal Code and its hate speech
provisions are the best place for complaints to be dealt with, adding
police are better suited to investigating extreme speech than individual
complainants. The other major concern is the commission investigating a
complaint is a violation of free speech in itself, Moon said. Since 2001
the commission has accepted 74 Section 13 complaints. Of the 17 that were
actually heard by the tribunal, 16 found that the respondents breached the
act. The maximum fine is $10,000.

Des Rosiers said a better move would be to spend money and energy targeting
acts of discrimination, instead of fighting speech, something she calls a
losing battle. “It hasn’t stopped the level of vitriolic comments on the
internet,” she said. “It has done very little good and has the potential to
do a great deal of harm.” ****

The NDP opposes Storseth’s bill, but Wednesday’s vote occurs on the same
day as the final vote on legislation to kill the gun registry, ensuring
there will be strong Conservative showing in the House of Commons. Liberal
Justice critic Irwin Cotler supports amending instead of repealing Section
13 in a bid to prevent vilifying speech while protecting people from hate
speech. Both the Supreme Court of Canada and the Federal Court of Canada
are examining cases involved hate speech.

The court cases coupled with the political momentum leaves Lemire with one
prediction: “It’s really only a matter of time before this law is gone.” **
On the 67th Anniversary of the Allied Bombing of Dresden
Written by Paul Fromm
Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:25
*On the 67th Anniversary of the Allied Bombing of Dresden*

February 13. Sixty-seven years ago today, thousands of Allied planes,
chiefly British and American, attacked Dresden, an undefended university
and cultural centre in Eastern Germany. As many as a quarter of a million
refugees fleeing the advancing Soviet armies huddled in the city. Over
three days, three waves of bombers attacked this defenceless city killing
250,000 people, mostly women and children. The Allied bombers first dropped
percussion bombs that blew the roofs off the sturdy buildings. The next
wave dropped incendiary bombs that set up a firestorm that liquefied people
and killed hundreds of firemen and medics who'd rushed in to minister to
the victims of the first bomber wave.

By any reasonable assessment this was a war crime. However, none of those
responsible, chiefly Winston Churchill, faced the court at Nuremberg, which
was solely victors' vengeance, not justice.

Yesterday, I partcipated and spoke at a Toronto memorial sponsored by the
German World Congress and the German Historical Society of Mecklenburg and
Upper Canada. We sadly commeorated the dead in Dresden and other German
cities. Once again European man slaughtered European man. And who reaped
the benefit?

*Paul Fromm*
*Former Caandian Diplomat and Member of the RCAF Ian Macdoanld Writes*

If you had been posted to Europe instead of the Pacific you probably
would have helped kill those innocent women and children, mostly blond and
blue eyed like yourself, and you would have felt guilt for the rest of your
life. W/C Giff Gifford who took part in the Dresden massacre wrote to the
"Valour and the Horror" review committee that the RAF Briefing Officer
naming the target said: "We have a real juicy one for you tonight
gentlemen, it's Dresden, and it's packed with refugees". Giff said he felt
remorse every day of his life thereafter. Bomber Harris is generally
blamed for the war crime but apparently Churchill was the chief culprit, at
least he could have stopped it. Churchill however was obligated to his
fanatically anti-German, anti-Christian paymasters who probably insisted
that he kill as many Germans as possible before the war ended. They needn't
have worried, since ways were found to kill even larger numbers, civilian
and military, after the war They got their revenge, but Western
Civilization paid the price. I.V.


Excerpts from *WITNESS TO HISTORY* Michael Walsh http://amzn.to/rR41iO

During the war, more bombs by weight were dropped on the city of Berlin
than were released on the whole of Great Britain during the entire war. All
German towns and cities above 50,000 populations were from 50% to 80%
destroyed. Dresden was incinerated with up to 300,000 civilian burned and
buried in the ruins.
Hamburg was totally destroyed and 70,000 civilians died in the most
appalling circumstances. As Hamburg burned the winds feeding the three
mile high flames reached twice hurricane speed to exceeded 150 miles per
hour. Trees three feet in diameter on the outskirts of the city were
sucked from the ground by the supernatural forces of these winds and hurled
miles into the city-inferno, as were vehicles, men, women... and children.
The volcanic flames were hurled 5,000’ into the sky. Four times the height
of the Empire State Building. With gases they rose as high again caused
meteorological reaction high as the stratosphere.
Between 1940 and 1945, sixty-one German cities with a total population of
25 million souls were destroyed of devastated in a bombing campaign that
was initiated by the British government. Destruction on this scale had no
other purpose than the indiscriminate mass murder of as many German people
as possible regardless of their civilian status. It led to bombing
retaliation resulting in 60,000 British dead and 86,000 injured.

The eminent British war historian and strategist, Captain Sir. Basil
Liddell Hart declared that through this strategy victory had been achieved
‘through practising the most uncivilised means of warfare that the world
had known since the Mongol invasions.’ - *The Evolution of Warfare*. Baber
& Faber, 1946, p.75

‘It was absolutely contrary to international law. - Prime Minister Neville


‘Hitler only undertook the bombing of British civilian targets reluctantly
three months after the RAF had commenced bombing German civilian targets.
Hitler would have been willing at any time to stop the slaughter. Hitler
was genuinely anxious to reach with Britain an agreement confining the
action of aircraft to battle zones.’ - J.M Spaight., CB. CBE. Bombing
Vindicated, p.47. Principal Secretary to the Air Ministry

‘Churchill was obsessed with getting America into the war. He tried to
frighten Roosevelt with the prospect of an early German victory. He
searched for an outrage, such as the sinking of the Lusitania in the First
World War that would arouse American public opinion. German bombing of
British civilians might well achieve this. But for weeks it looked as if
the Germans had no intention of being so obliging.’ - *The First Casualty*,
Phillip Knightley, Andre Deutsch. London 1975


‘The first 'area' air attack of the war was carried out by 134 British
bombers on the German city of Mannheim, on the 16th, December, 1940. The
object of this attack, as Air Chief Marshall Peirse later explained, was,
'to concentrate the maximum amount of damage in the centre of the town.'‘-
*The Strategic Air Offensive Against Germany*. (H.M Stationery Office,
London, 1961)


‘Because we were doubtful about the psychological effect of propagandist
distortion of the truth that it was we who started the strategic (civilian)
bombing offensive, we have shrunk from giving our great decision of May,
11th 1940, the publicity it deserves.’ - *Bombing Vindicated.* J.M.
Spaight, CB. CBE. Principal Secretary to the Air Ministry.

‘The primary purpose of these raids was to goad the Germans into
undertaking reprisal raids of a similar character on Britain. Such raids
would arouse intense indignation in Britain against Germany and so create a
war psychosis without which it would be impossible to carry on a modern
war.’ - Dennis Richards, the Royal Air Force 1939/1945; The Fight at Odds.
H.M Stationery Office


‘I am in full agreement (of terror bombing). I am all for the bombing of
working class areas in German cities. I am a Cromwellian - I believe in
'slaying in the name of the Lord!’ - Sir. Archibald Sinclair, Secretary
for Air


‘They (the British Air Chiefs) argued that the desired result, of reducing
German industrial production, would be more readily achieved if the homes
of the workers in the factories were destroyed; if the workers were kept
busy arranging for the burial of their wives and children, output might
reasonably be expected to fall.’ - *Advance to Barbarism*, F.J.P Veale;
Distinguished British Jurist


‘The long suppressed story of the worst massacre in the history of the
world. The devastation of Dresden in February, 1945, was one of those
crimes against humanity whose authors would have been arraigned at
Nuremberg if that court had not been perverted.’ - Richard. H.S Crosman,
Labour Government Minister

‘I have read the reviews of the biographies of Sir Arthur Harris with
extremely mixed feelings and also Robert Kee's letter. (8th July). On 13th,
February 1945, I was a navigator on one of the Lancaster bombers which
devastated Dresden. I well remember the briefing by our Group Captain. We
were told that the Red Army was thrusting towards Dresden and that the town
would be crowded with refugees and that the centre of the town would be
full of women and children. Our aiming point would be the market place.
I recall that we were somewhat uneasy, but we did as we were told. We
accordingly bombed the target and on our way back our wireless operator
picked up a German broadcast accusing the RAF of terror tactics and those
65,000 civilians had died. We dismissed this as German propaganda.
The penny didn't drop until a few weeks later when my squadron received a
visit from the Crown Film Unit who were making the wartime propaganda
films. There was a mock briefing, with one notable difference. The same
Group Captain now said, 'as the market place would be filled with women and
children on no account would we bomb the centre of the town. Instead, our
aiming point would be a vital railway junction to the east.
I can categorically confirm that the Dresden raid was a black mark on
Britain's war record. The aircrews on my squadron were convinced that this
wicked act was not instigated by our much respected guvnor 'Butch' Harris
but by Churchill. I have waited 29 years to say this, and it still worries
me.’ - A. Williams, Nottingham; the *Observer*, August 8th. 1984

CHILDREN MACHINE-GUNNED The strafing of columns of refugees by both
American and British fighter planes was par for the course: ‘.... it is
said that these (zoo) animals and terrified groups of refugees were
machine-gunned as they tried to escape across the Grosser Garten by
low-flying planes and that many bodies riddled by bullets were found later
in this park.’ - *Der Tod von Dresden*, Axel Rodenberger, February 25th 1951

In Dresden, ‘Even the huddled remnants of a children’s' choir were
machine-gunned in a street bordering a park.’ - David Irving, *Destruction
of Dresden
Phosphorous was used ‘because of its demonstrated ability to depress the
morale of the Germans.’ - Official British source


‘I can tell you that Germany has been destroyed utterly and completely.’ -
U.S. General Bradley, Associated Press, London, June 11th 1945

The terror bombing offensive cost the lives of over 2 million German
civilians. It resulted in the total destruction of many of Europe's finest
and most historical cities. It cost the lives of 58,888 RAF air crew;
nearly the same number of British junior officers during the First World

‘Even the senseless and highly culture-destroying terror acts, against for
example, Lubeck and Dresden, carried out by the Allied pilots, should have
been investigated and brought before a proper court of justice.’ - Major
General H. Bratt, Royal Swedish Army

‘A nation which spreads over another a sheet of inevitably deadly gases or
eradicates entire cities from the earth by the explosion of atomic bombs,
does not have the right to judge anyone for war crimes; it has already
committed the greatest atrocity, equal to no other atrocity; it has killed
- amidst unspeakable torments - hundreds of thousands of innocent people.’
- Hon. Lydio Machado Bandeira de Mello, Dr. Juris. Brazilian Professor of
Criminal Law; author of more than 40 works on law/philosophy

‘As for crimes against humanity, those governments which ordered the
destruction of German cities, thereby destroying irreplaceable cultural
values and making burning torches out of women and children, should also
have stood before the bar of justice.’ - Hon Jaan Lattik. Estonian
statesman, diplomat and historian


‘One closes these volumes feeling, uneasily, that the true heroes of the
story they tell are neither the contending air marshals, nor even the
58,888 officers and men of Bomber Command who were killed in action. They
were the inhabitants of the German cities under attack; the men, women and
children who stoically endured and worked on among the flaming ruins of
their homes and factories, up till the moment when the allied armies
overran them.’ - London Times reviewer on the British Official History of
the Strategic Air Offensive.

‘There are no final figures on the number of civilians killed as a result
of the mass-bombing, but 2,000,000 would be a very restrained figure
(estimate).’ - Professor Harry Elmer Barnes, Ph.D. American historian.

‘Kassel suffered over 300 air raids, some carrying waves of 1,000 bombers;
British by night, American by day. When on April, 4th, 1945, Kassel
surrendered, of a population of 250,000, just 15,000 were left alive.’ -
Jack Bell, Chicago Daily News Foreign Service, Kassel, May 15th 1946

‘Countless smaller towns and villages had been razed to the ground or
turned into ghost towns like Wiener Neustadt in Austria. The town emerged
from the air raids with only eighteen houses intact and its population
reduced from 45,000 to 860.’ - In the *Ruins of the Reich*, Douglas
Botting. George, Allen & Unwin. London. 1985

AND THE OTHER CITIES: Berlin, Hamburg, Dortmund, Essen, Dresden, Frankfurt,
Nuremberg, Dusseldorf, Hanover, Bremen, Wuppertal, Vienna, Duisburg.
Munich, Magdeburg, Leipzig, Mannheim, Stuttgart, Kiel, Gelsdenkirchen,
Bochum, Aachen, Wurzburg, Darmstadt, Krefeld, Munster, Munchen Gladbach,,
Braunschweig, Ludwishafen, Remscheid, Pforzheim, Osnabruck, Mainz,
Bielefeld, Gieben, Duren, Solingen, Wilhelmshafen, Karlsruhe, Oberhausen,
Heilbronn, Augsburg, Hamm, Knittelfeld, Luneburg, Cuxhaven, Kulmback,
Hagen, Saarbrucken, Freiburg, Graz, Koblenz, Ulm, Bonn, Bremmenhaven,
Wanne-Eickel, Woms, Lubeck, Schweinfurt, Kleve, Wiener Neustadt, Wiesbaden,
Paderborn, Bocholt, Hanau, Hildesheim, Emden, Siegen, Pirmasons, Hale,
Bayreuth, Kreuznach, Witten, Aschaffenburg, Kaiserlautern, Gladbeck,
Dorsten, Innsbruck, Neumunster, Linz, Klagenfurt, Reutlingen,
Recklinghausen, Reuel, Regensburg, Homberg, Elmshorn, Wetzler, Vilach,
Hamelin, Konigsburg, Moers, Passau, Solbad Hall I.T, Coburg,
Attnang-Puchheim, Friedsrichhafen, Frankfurt-Oder, Danzig, Bozen, Chemnitz,
Rostock, Schwerte, Plauen, Rome, Bad Kreuznach, Neapel, Genoa, Mailand,

Michael Walsh News Services
Independent White European International News
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Give Freedom a Valentine's Day Gift: Vote for Bill C-304
Written by Paul Fromm
Monday, 13 February 2012 06:26
* Give Freedom a Valentine's Day Gift: Vote for Bill C-304*

To All MPs:

This week is crucial in the battle to get the despotic hands of the
Canadian Human Rights Commission off the Internet. Lives have been ruined,
reputations trashed, jobs lost, and a fortune racked up in legal bills
because of Sec. 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act and those who are no
lovers of freedom of speech who have used it against their political
We at CAFE have devoted 15 years to fighting this evil law at tribunals and
in the courts. We have fought hard for Marc Lemire.

However, on Tuesday, Valentine's Day, the House of Commons will devote an
hour of debate to Bill C-304. Introduced by Brian Storseth of Alberta, this
legislation would repeal Sec. 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act. Thus, if
Bill C-304 is passed, the Human Rights Commission will no longer have
censorship power over the Internet.

Bill C-304 will be voted on -- second reading -- on Wednesday. If it
passes, it will go to committee and then be returned to the House of
Commons for Third Reading, which is usually just a formality.

Under Sec. 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act:

* Truth is no defence
* Intent is no defence
* The prosecutors needed prove that anyone was ever influenced by the
Internet message
* Mere criticism of privileged groups is enough to merit a lifetime vague
"cease and desist" order and hefty fines.

Canada rightly criticizes restrictions on free speech in places like
Myanmar, Iran and Red China.

It's time to rid Canada of this retrograde and repressive measure.

I urge you to vote for Bill C-304 on Wednesday and give freedom loving
Canadians a Valentine's Day present.

Paul Fromm
Canadian Association for Free Expression

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